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Jim Carmichael's avatar

Have done work on males in the feminine professions. You don’t mention differentials in pay between men and women who occupy the same place (e.g., manager, equal experience) within the same profession, or job differentiation (bedside nurse versus ward nurse). Has that changed, or are salaries still tied to sex within the feminine professions? Outlook for future?

VEE LAVALLEE's avatar

E for effort. Trying to explain how elder care can be done by robots was Okaaay? Yet aside from the message chair that the Japanese love what else can robotics do for the elderly? Somehow, though I'm old and don't need that kind of care and don't expect to until death, there are many things that carers do. The building I live in is for over 60's. It's mostly women from what I can tell. The males tend to drop dead more often than the women and the ambulance arriving is usually for the men, but also because of their bad habits they tend to need more care on an everyday basis. The carers also clean their homes and feed them or else so many of them wouldn't do it at all! Maybe it's really a gender thing and many of them are single and have not been for all their lives. I might add that they aren't widowers, most are divorced. They tend to drink a lot. They also tend to stay indoors all day every day. I sometimes hear them yelling at their carers, which btw are 4 out of 5 female. Also they are mostly immigrants. I forgot to mention I live in Britain and we haven't thrown them out yet. Though they way the far right party here is gaining ground immigration might become an issue. There's also the fact that many homegrown women or men wouldn't take those jobs. Most women tend to have a son or a daughter who takes care of them and men don't. Make of that what you will.

Michael Minor's avatar

Japan recognized with an aging population and an extremely restrictive immigration policy, robots are the only solution. As an aging American, I can only hope they get it right.

Judy's avatar

Hasn't Britain been throwing them out for years? The Windrush scandal?

Funny that women have a son or daughter who will take are of them but men don't. Love it.

VEE LAVALLEE's avatar

Yes Windrush was, IS a scandal. I'm heartened that most of the British public don't think that way today. A park across the street from me had an American style far right rally against "illegal imm migrants" recently and there were more police than attendees! Early in the morning when they were putting up England flags I asked what this was all about. When they told me I was furious and said "What the fuck is this? A make England great again rally!" Of the dozen or so people there most of them looked abashed and stared at their feet instead of trying to justify themselves. There's hooligans in every society but there's also a greater number that come out against this bullshit.

Helen Shuster's avatar

Last week you said how great the jobs numbers were but I would like to know more about what level of jobs they were. Are they hourly wage or salaried more career oriented jobs? As you also said, most of the Care jobs are currently held by women and, in general, traditionally and currently, women do not get paid as much as men.

ConnieW's avatar

How does one trust AI with paying one’s bills as an old person, given the predatory behavior it has already demonstrated?

Protect the Vote's avatar

What happened to a return to a gold standard?

Michael Minor's avatar

2nd career teacher, now retired. 25 years in financial services, 20 years in highschool. Without question teaching requires the ability to sell to hostile customers.

Elden, Gary (SHB)'s avatar

I would love a transcript. Is there a way to get one?

Judy's avatar

YouTube often will generate one, if asked. Maybe the person who posts the item has to be the one who asks for a transcript of it. Lots of errors, but you can easily correct them. Because you are a live person, not an AI bot.

Louis's avatar

Love your content and your appearances on MSNOW.Is there a chance you could offer transcripts or even summaries. I dont have time to listen, but read it all

Judy's avatar

Yes, reading is faster than listening, if you are pressed for time. But I love the accent and this particular substack gives me practice deciphering the words. It's a skill that transfers.

Judy's avatar

Great episode! I'm probably an outlier, but learning, both in-the-classroom and self-directed, has always been the brightest spot in my life at any age, K-Ph.D. and afterward. You guys aren't giving your students enough credit, or maybe you aren't noticing the students who would rather be there than anywhere else.

Thanks for the explanation about women's pay not being the whole answer or even most of the answer.

Regarding the potential for AI in education, I think AI as a teacher can be good or bad. There's a great economics book on the internet, CoreEcon's The Economy 1.0, that presents quiz answers that a student will actively choose when the student has misunderstand the underlying concept of the material. And when the student, okay, when *I* actively choose the wrong answer, not just a random guess, actively gravitate toward that wrong answer, the program presents an explanation of why I think that is the right answer and why it is not the right answer. That's a great pseudo-AI program. I see it as pseudo-AI because it has been hard-wired by educators who learned through decades of experience what students were thinking when they picked that wrong answer. The program is not learning and changing. It's just a well-built program.

I've also had experiences with bad pseudo-AI programs. I have fought with programs, most memorably with a language-learning program (either German or Italian, possibly both) that was supposedly extensively tested before being released in connection with a textbook. It had a function for challenging the program's answer and submitting a detailed justification, if I thought the desired answer was incorrect, but the program was hard-wired and challenging the answer didn't lead to any productive result. Despite claims that activity was monitored, there was no live person who would review the challenge and explain why my response was incorrect. I had to accumulate a certain number of correct responses in order to fulfill the daily assignment, and answers that I challenged remained incorrect in the program's tally. So the only way to find what the program thought was the right answer was to guess. Too many challenged answers or guesses triggered the program to declare that I was wildly guessing (duh!) and unable to benefit from further interaction with the program, at which point I would be cut off without a chance to accumulate the necessary correct responses for the daily participation grade. I could "come back later" but of course I was not motivated to come back later. Occasionally I received a notification from a challenge reviewer that my incorrect answer was acceptable, but these notifications were always far too late to count for the daily score.

AI, with its quick responses, would be an improvement on the bad pseudo-AI programs, but I think live teachers are better able to understand why the student is not seeing the path to the correct answer. And that's the goal. Not just being able to produce the desired answer after seeing repetitions of the question, but knowing the correct path and understanding why other paths are wrong. I think that's one of the great values of one-to-one live mentorship in graduate school. The correct path may be unknown, and figuring out how to figure out is what you learn in grad school.